Comments on: The ugly truth about the Icelandic Civic movement

By: admin

admin — Sat, 29 Aug 2009 03:14:37 +0000

I am not hiding behind the admin name. I am not painting the Civil Movement as crazy loons, just misguided people who do not follow their own advise and their own guidelines. The paint themselves just fine.
I have no idea who Glenn Beck is. And having a blog does not make me journalist….well that is a matter of oppinion, and as I said above, you are welcome to yours.

By: Andri Sigurðsson

Andri Sigurðsson — Mon, 24 Aug 2009 15:55:10 +0000

Dear Admin,

Have a nice one. Im shocked at your will to paint the CM as some crazy loons. Having a blog doesn’t make you a journalist my friend. Do you watch Glenn Beck? Hiding behind the admin username also doesn’t help.

By: admin

admin — Mon, 24 Aug 2009 00:12:05 +0000

Andri, you are welcome to you view. What is not credible about this article?, you dont have any arguments that show how this article not true?
The source for this article was a part of this, and it is mostly his view, but it shows a very ugly and disturbed political party. A party that now only serves as a vehicle to push the agenda of the three members of parliament, and not the will of the voters.
The credibility of this one person is not in question, but his tale is just an example of how things are within the movement, and the election fiasco that let to one member of parliament to resign from the party, and others from the party to quit the party.
That is just a confirmation that the source for the article was totally spot on.
To say that the article is not very credible is simply a classic case of denial. The actions of the party members speaks for itself.

By: Andri Sigurðsson

Andri Sigurðsson — Sun, 23 Aug 2009 22:28:46 +0000

Again, I think the article is poorly written and does the Citizen Movement no justice. Writing a whole article based on what one person thinks of the CM is not very credible. Calling them lunatics and other baseless terms is also not very professional. Many of the problems that have been dragging the movement down are from the fact that it was created in very short time with out much of the needed rules in place.

“This article [..] shows the real face of the party”

Ridiculous.

By: admin

admin — Tue, 18 Aug 2009 09:38:01 +0000

Ella. Thanks for the comment. This is particularly bad in Iceland, simply because of the size. A small society likes to know everyone, who they are, why they are, what they stand for and so on.
This article is not an attack, far from it. It shows the real face of the party, and it has come true what is said there. One member of the four has resigned from the party, and half of the people on the party ruling board has quit due to the fact that the party members in parliament broke all the rules they set themselves. Simples.

By: Ella Lee

Ella Lee — Tue, 18 Aug 2009 05:15:41 +0000

Whenever people attack others publically but under the cover of anonymity, it is difficult to find them credible. A “mad house” – I don’t know…compared to the corruption mills that are the other Icelandic political parties, it would have to get a lot worse than what you are describing.

By: admin

admin — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 10:26:47 +0000

Johannes: Þrainn is not a man of the people, far from it, he is a progressive party dropout and an oppertunity seeking politician. This article is not made out to praise him, rather to point out that he was the only one who actually did what the party set out to do.
The facts state the opposite? What am I missing, he voted yes to give the people a chance to speak, the others did not. I do think you have the facts mixed up, sorry.

Rosa: Baby steps is good, but running a political party but not a political party is just not possible. Its like going to play football in a samurai outfit (sword and all). It is possible, but in the end you are not a part of the game.
A political party has agenda, a policy that the members agree on and follow. When the refusal to play within the rules all the time is an agenda, you wont play anymore, nobody votes for you and you will be lost in the political playground.

Andri: More weight if it had more sources? Why? is it because you cant stand the thought of information comming from someone you cant judge beforehand, like most Icelanders love to do?
This article was not written to show insight into why the party was formed, it is clear in the article why it was formed, but not in any serious detail. The person who is my source for this is explained in the article, and the reactions to his suggestions. To me, it looks like a mad house. And it seems to be so still. The party members and the foot soldiers attack the only man who actually followed the main party agenda, and the reason for it’s being. To let the people talk.

By: Andri Sigurðsson

Andri Sigurðsson — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 02:31:49 +0000

This article would have more weight if had more sources and its does not have much insight into how the party was formed or why.

The people who started the movement wanted something different, which was the dialog of the protests last
winter. The old 4-way system had let us down. Going and forming a formal and typical political party was never what was going to happen, people wanted new ideas and nothing of the old that let us down.

By: Johannes H.

Johannes H. — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 01:09:36 +0000

This is funny, because I remember Þráinn Bertelsson voting NO to the amendment proposal to change the original bill so that Iceland’s application to the EU would go for a national referendum and if the outcome of said referendum was to apply for membership then the final referendum would be binding, as in the government would be forced to abide by it.

This is kinda important to know when the whole point (or so I think) of this article is to make Þráinn out to be the “man of the people” and the other people (who voted yes to the amendment bill) to be “denying the voice of the people”

The facts however state the complete opposite.

By: Rosa

Rosa — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 00:35:00 +0000

This is totally bull s. You don’t want to give the young democratic movement some time to take the baby steps. If it were perfect already, it would be strange. They have no rules, no elders to look to for guidence, and of course it is the danger of the strong ego-people taking over and demanding their opinion is the right one. But the foot-soldiers are many and hopefully won’t allow that to happen!